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Now the 30th of September, that is the further dive, and it is here that our PDB 5 was picked up, whatever it contained. This was a search at 12 metres, the depth at which Mr. Brookes had found the four items on the 10th. On that occasion Mr. McMahon and Mr. Brookes told us that they had found a significant number of items. They were items of clothing and cosmetics, and they were ultimately examined by Miss Rushton, the clothing expert, and you have a convenient list of what was found there because they are in the front of the folder with the photographs in, so if you want to remember what was discovered on the 30th, I think they are all those items in that index.

Mr. Brookes was the second in the water on that occasion. They seemed to have dived one at a time. Now Mr. Brookes said he saw clothing, and he started to transfer the clothing he saw into the bag he was carrying. He said that once he started to grab for clothing, the silt came up and he had to feel about to recover the other items. Mr. Brookes said that he would not consciously have gathered a stone. He had no recollection of doing so. He speculated that it must have been wrapped up with the other items that he had recovered, and it was just funnily enough at the moment when he was shown the stone that he fainted, you may remember, but that was just one of those things.

He said he had no recollection of it at all when he looked at it. No recollection of recovering it. Indeed, he said that if he had noticed a rock at all, he probably would have discarded it. Again he had not any recollection of filling in an exhibit label, but the relevant label was shown to him and he said it was his signature, dated the 30th of September of 1997. He said that whatever he had picked up, he had taken the items out of his net bag when he got on shore and put them in another bag with the police vehicle. He agreed that there was nothing on the dive log or on the exhibit label which referred to a rock, and obviously I will return to other evidence in due course about the rock itself.

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